M-Classic

 找回密碼
 立即註冊
搜索
查看: 7635|回復: 35

Love it, hate it

[複製鏈接]

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
發表於 2016-7-13 07:51:37 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
The new SL has been drawing a lot of controversies about the look and how it has ruined the Leica's reputation. Leica fans hated it.

Personally, I like the design of the SL body. Not much bigger than the M240 when a MF handgrip is used. The feel is strong and solid but not too heavy.


The EVF is very good which makes focusing a lot easier.


When fitted with old M lenses, it looks modern yet vintage!







On the other hand, the 24-90 Vario has received more curse than praise. The size, weight and the relatively slow lens did not win any approval from diehard M fans.


Frankly speaking, it is a very big, fat and heavy lens. Sitting next to big and heavy M/R lenses like Noct and R100, the Vario 24-90 is in super heavyweight.






回復

使用道具 舉報

2

主題

321

帖子

1004

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1004
發表於 2016-7-13 10:32:48 | 顯示全部樓層
if only they put the SL sensor and screens in a m body...

點評

When using M or R lenses, I don't find SL too hard to use. There are a lot new and useful features I find easy to operate.  發表於 2016-7-13 15:12
回復

使用道具 舉報

26

主題

3983

帖子

8067

積分

論壇元老

Rank: 8Rank: 8

積分
8067
發表於 2016-7-13 11:28:43 | 顯示全部樓層
This link below is a page in diglloyd's bolg about testing the Zeiss ZM 35/1.4 on SL. At the end of the page when responded to 2 of his readers, he put down some issues he had with SL. Lloyd Chambers should be on the "hate" side but reading through the lines, one can understand the SL a bit more.

http://diglloyd.com/blog/2016/20 ... -ZeissZM35f1_4.html
回復

使用道具 舉報

26

主題

3983

帖子

8067

積分

論壇元老

Rank: 8Rank: 8

積分
8067
發表於 2016-7-13 11:50:12 | 顯示全部樓層
I like to add that Lloyd Chambers is subscribers only for his test reports. But the link above is for his blog which is free to access for all.
回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-13 15:14:20 | 顯示全部樓層
M3fans 發表於 2016-7-13 11:28
This link below is a page in diglloyd's bolg about testing the Zeiss ZM 35/1.4 on SL. At the end of  ...

Another one is from the love side

https://tulipfrenzy.com/2016/07/ ... ica-m-photographer/
回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-13 15:27:25 | 顯示全部樓層
My first 2 weeks with SL and 24-90 gone quickly. I spent more time with my M & R lenses instead of the Vario 24-90. Reasons being the said physical size and weight, but more on the habitual operation and routine of using M.

點評

would appreciate & nice if you could post more SL photos here with different lenses...  發表於 2016-7-13 17:39
回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-13 17:59:00 | 顯示全部樓層
R100 2.8 Macro

回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-13 18:00:30 | 顯示全部樓層
R80 1.4

回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-13 18:01:54 | 顯示全部樓層
Noct V4

回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-13 18:03:05 | 顯示全部樓層
50 APO

回復

使用道具 舉報

108

主題

7711

帖子

1萬

積分

論壇元老

Rank: 8Rank: 8

積分
15787
發表於 2016-7-14 02:37:00 | 顯示全部樓層
M3fans 發表於 2016-7-13 11:28
This link below is a page in diglloyd's bolg about testing the Zeiss ZM 35/1.4 on SL. At the end of  ...

Thanks for sharing.

"Leica SL EVF is unusable with polarized sunglasses." he wrote.
Well.....
回復

使用道具 舉報

26

主題

3983

帖子

8067

積分

論壇元老

Rank: 8Rank: 8

積分
8067
發表於 2016-7-14 16:03:51 | 顯示全部樓層

4 lenses, 4 shots, each poisonous in its own way
回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-14 18:06:34 | 顯示全部樓層
M3fans 發表於 2016-7-14 16:03
4 lenses, 4 shots, each poisonous in its own way

It is so hard not to try all the different lenses. The SL body is like having 3 new cameras; a new M, a new R and a new AF when using the Vario 24-90.

I only wish I could stick to one lens long enough to explore more.
回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-14 18:07:51 | 顯示全部樓層
Elmarit-M 1:2.8/21



點評

Wow  發表於 2016-7-15 13:15
回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-14 18:11:18 | 顯示全部樓層
R80 1.4

回復

使用道具 舉報

6

主題

73

帖子

133

積分

註冊會員

Rank: 2

積分
133
發表於 2016-7-14 22:32:47 | 顯示全部樓層
其實唔使比較啦,SL 同 M 機一齊用。

另外24-90,對焦快,macro 勁。唔喜歡咪放入防潮柜囉
回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-15 04:22:43 | 顯示全部樓層
whatafather 發表於 2016-7-14 22:32
其實唔使比較啦,SL 同 M 機一齊用。

另外24-90,對焦快,macro 勁。唔喜歡咪放入防潮柜囉 ...

分享比較是樂趣,過程中可加深每支鏡的特性認識。

買而唔用實是浪費。

24-90 相信是好鏡,但相處短短兩週,只可作表面評估,兄台如有圖片分享介紹其長短,大家都會受益。

另外防潮柜在多年前已經塞爆,支24-90 咁巨肥,只可暫作門或紙鎮!
回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-15 04:27:56 | 顯示全部樓層
With R80 1.4, it is ergonomic and balance

回復

使用道具 舉報

23

主題

710

帖子

1542

積分

VIP

Rank: 6Rank: 6

積分
1542
 樓主| 發表於 2016-7-15 05:04:25 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 JCR33 於 2016-7-15 13:20 編輯

As Whatafather and many other reviewers said, 24-90 is 對焦快,macro 勁 (yet to find out)!

For the first few attempts, I found myself lost and unable to focus.

First, I have been so used to do focus manually for years and AF or "do nothing" is not part of my routine.

Second, with 24-90 there are a lot of different options with AF, AFs, AFC, spot, area, field and etc, there are too many variables that upsetting my habitual stream of subconscious routine with manual focus. I was not able to capture that "decisive moments".

Third, the size and weight is just a bit off-putting when I have many R & M lenses to use and try.

So on Sunday, I decided to take only the 24-90 out to Sydney Harbour and walked across the Bridge.

After a few warm-up shots, I slowly get to understand the flow, but it is still hard to talk photos without being noticed, unlike the smaller M lenses with M9/240, I can shoot from the hips! So I did a few "影後" shots to test






And a few frontal shots without any framing or composition





Save
Save
回復

使用道具 舉報

26

主題

3983

帖子

8067

積分

論壇元老

Rank: 8Rank: 8

積分
8067
發表於 2016-7-15 15:52:00 | 顯示全部樓層
JCR33 發表於 2016-7-15 05:04
As Whatafather and many other reviewers said, 24-90 is 對焦快,macro 勁 (yet to find out)!

For the  ...


Quite enjoy watch your shots. Seems you are going to be busy for a while playing with the new lens and camera. Looks like lots of fun testing out R & M lenses with the new toy.
Congrats, have fun and please share the photos and happiness!!
回復

使用道具 舉報

您需要登錄後才可以回帖 登錄 | 立即註冊

本版積分規則

小黑屋|手機版|Archiver|mclassic.com.hk

GMT+8, 2024-12-5 10:36 , Processed in 0.030203 second(s), 19 queries .

Powered by Discuz! X3.4

© 2001-2017 Comsenz Inc.

快速回復 返回頂部 返回列表