完美極罕後期軍用版八枚

tomlau2009

HK.38000

tomlau2009

買呢個八妹一定要買多個,你唔會舍得用

tomlau2009

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holmes

請問如何分辨軍用版?

Jeansky

請問如何分辨軍用版? x2

LanLan

請問如何分辨軍用版? x3 xD

skha818

請問如何分辨軍用版? x4

raumplan

231 !!!!! very late serial!!!!

I'V

請問如何分辨軍用版? x5

Pandachief

I don't have the detail information with me but I can share some information from top of my head.

The millitary version of M2-R is call KS-15(4). From the outside it a typical M2 but it equipped with M4 rapid film loader.  It was made for for US army for Vietnam war.

KS-15(4) as mentioned have no military markings. There was a miltary contract number on the carrying case dedicated to the set which also included in the set a 50/2 DR, 35/2 Summicron and a 135/2.8 RF (Also no special markings).  Since the KS-15(4) was made after official production of the lens it carried, the above mentioned 3 lenses if with serial number way after it's official batch likely are from the set of KS-15(4). Often appear for sale are 50mm DR that were mean to be with KS-15(4) because there's a version of 1 lens one camera (KS-15(4) with 50mm DR) in additional to the 3 lenses set.

Of courses there's no way you can confirm if a the lenses are actually the one sent to Vietnam or bundle with the set as there's no markings.  It is all theories put together to try to find out the reason behind some after official serial production.  This is also the fun part of Leica.  I don't have the serial book with me so my comments are general and not related exactly to this lens.. Just some sharing. Thanks!

Pandachief

Furthermore, it happend often that Leica made lens to special order after it's official run or purely some serial number record are mistaken.  So there's a lot of possiblity but still, if a lens is of serial outside official range, is quite rare.  Some early Goggle BP 8 elements were produced way before the first serial number on record.  I also saw quite a few BP M2 and BP M3 that very certain is original but serial number are not within the recorded serial number too!  Also saw once a Noct V2 with a serial number of a V3 range!

C9.99

係四年前，我賣過一套好特別的KS15-4, 連支DR，支Summicron DR都係OOR (out of range)
詳細圖如下，KS15-4見過幾部，但咁特別就只此一部。The serial number of the DR is 2228853 attached on this unique KS-15.

C9.99

我手頭都正好有一枝DR Summicron, 正正係跟一部M2R的，但拆下來，因為買家只想要機身。跟大家分享一下。Serial係2357991，根據pocketbook記載呢支係最後批次的Summicron 50，生產於1968年，亦與M2R的機身出廠日期1969年吻合。
所以OOR(out of range)或最尾期的DR, 八枚，一般會被人認為係軍用版。

我個人認為，OOR或尾年的八枚很有可能是為那些美軍放了Leica鴿子的KS15-4, 而萊卡後來再包裝成M2R而生產的。

C9.99

eBay剛好有套近全新的M2R, 所跟的正好是一支序號2385147的DR Summicron! 比pocket book所示的最後號碼2358300為後，大家可以多個參考。