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Colors from Sigma Foveon (SD14 n SD Quattro) and Fujifilm X-Trans sensors

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發表於 2017-3-31 22:00:11 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
本帖最後由 wk7leung 於 2017-4-7 00:55 編輯

The cameras used are Sigma SD14 and Fujifilm X-E1. The lens is an f2.8 manual 85mm Rollei except for 2a as specified. The artificial light is from Godox V850.

Personally, in favor of the colors from the Foveon sensor.

1 Fujifilm X-E1

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DSCF9111-1ZSPMax+31032017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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DSCF9177-2ZS PMax_31032017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

2 Sigma SD14
2a  Coupled with an f2.8 AFD105mm Micro Nikkor
SDIM3656-0ZS PMax_30032017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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SDIM3678-3ZS PMax_31032017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr


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發表於 2017-3-31 22:09:32 | 顯示全部樓層
i also like the color of foveon better. Are they out of the box jpegs?
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-3-31 23:53:37 來自手機 | 顯示全部樓層
Jason 發表於 2017-3-31 22:09
i also like the color of foveon better. Are they out of the box jpegs?

No, they weren't.

I think, for XTran, Jpeg is still OK. For Foveon, RAW files are safer for finer contrast n exposure adjustment n color renditioning.
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-3-31 23:54:51 來自手機 | 顯示全部樓層
Foveon is a good match with Zeiss glass.
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發表於 2017-3-31 23:58:03 | 顯示全部樓層
Forgive me for saying this, but don't you think these macros look unusually flat?
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發表於 2017-4-1 03:28:02 | 顯示全部樓層
Seems Foveon is better from the images above.
Are the light direct straight to the front of the flowers?
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-4-1 07:00:18 來自手機 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 wk7leung 於 2017-4-1 10:08 編輯
vincecharus 發表於 2017-3-31 23:58
Forgive me for saying this, but don't you think these macros look unusually flat?


In my understanding, being flat refers to two things:
1. an even or a levelled smooth surface; and
2. shallow depth among the objects in a plane.

In those senses, the perspective in the shots is the case and is the result of:
1. positioning the plane of the camera to being perpendicular to the plane of the petals;
2. retaining, as far as possible, the sharpness of the petals through stacking a series of focused petal shots by using a software called Xerene Stacker, thus reducing the elevation among the petals.
3. The 85mm lens becoming a 135mm as a result of the cropping factor, the perspective so obtained becoming flat naturally provided that the camera is positioned suitably.

The aperture is around f2.8 to 4. The depth of field is pretty shallow. Bokeh is thus ensured.

The purpose of stacking is to ensure that the sharpness of a relatively large area of the flower is retained and yet a shallow bokeh can be achieved.

Light is artificial, applied laterally and from behind.





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Vincecharus, you have keen eyes.  發表於 2017-4-2 22:10
I think I might be referring to the effect of stacking.  發表於 2017-4-2 00:54
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-4-6 00:11:25 | 顯示全部樓層
A shot of a peel-off orchid.

Taken with Sigma SD14 and f2.8 AFD105mm Micro Nikkor.

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SDIM3751-5_ZS PMax_05042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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Thanks for popping by and commenting  發表於 2017-4-7 00:36
nice...have to try Sigma someday...  發表於 2017-4-6 11:37
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-4-7 00:52:43 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 wk7leung 於 2017-4-7 08:09 編輯

The shots in #4 below were taken with Sigma's SD Quattro and Nikon's f2.8 AFD Micro 105mm.

#4a This was converted from RAW to doubly-sized Tiff for stacking before converting to a Jpeg file
SDIM0029-4_Double-sized_ZS PMax_06042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

#4b  This was converted from RAW to Tiff of the original file size before converting to a Jpeg file
SDIM0029_4_Full-sized_ZS PMax_06042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-4-9 00:18:46 | 顯示全部樓層
Shots taken with SD Quattro and f4 200mm Rollei

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SDQ_0116a_07042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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SDQ_0095a_07042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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SDQ_0072a_07042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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SDQ_0053a_07042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-4-9 20:57:01 | 顯示全部樓層
SD Q plus f4 200mm Rollei

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SDQ_0175a_09042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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SDQ_0124a_08042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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SDQ_0134a_09042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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SDQ_0182a_09042017 by wksevenleung, on Flickr

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Pete, are the pictures taken with your SDQ in DNG raw & post processed with LR?  發表於 2017-4-10 03:26
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-4-10 22:42:16 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 wk7leung 於 2017-4-10 22:43 編輯

From SD Q ... with RAW files converted to Tiff using Sigma's software and retouched with PhotoShop subsequently.
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發表於 2017-4-12 03:58:44 | 顯示全部樓層
wk7leung 發表於 2017-4-10 22:42
From SD Q ... with RAW files converted to Tiff using Sigma's software and retouched with PhotoShop s ...

Thought you could shoot DNG ... check this link

https://www.dpreview.com/opinion/9977248883/sigma-shoots-dng-raw
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發表於 2017-4-13 20:46:02 | 顯示全部樓層
WK 師兄,

你的 Nikon, Rollei 鏡是如何接到 Sigma 機身的呢, 要拆機嗎?

以前睇過D介紹 (你寫的?), 是拆去SIGMA mount 才能改裝新 mount, 而且只有 M42 及Canon 鏡的.  是嗎?  請指教!!
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 樓主| 發表於 2017-4-14 00:22:40 | 顯示全部樓層
本帖最後由 wk7leung 於 2017-4-15 21:38 編輯
wolfmkc 發表於 2017-4-13 20:46
WK 師兄,

你的 Nikon, Rollei 鏡是如何接到 Sigma 機身的呢, 要拆機嗎?


I am using a Nikon-to-SA mount and an M42-to-SA mount for mounting my non-Sigma lenses to the SA bodies.

Some people convert the Sigma SA mount to the Canon one to revitalize their Canon-mount lenses. I have no Canon-mount lenses with me. I have no comments but if I did have, I would not do that because all the SA mount functionalities will be lost.

As a matter of fact, Sigma lenses are pretty good lenses as well. Using them, you can obtain images that are sparkling in ensemble as the algorithm in the Sigma bodies are meticulously tailored for the SA lenses.

You can mount, for example, Rollei, C/Y, Nikon, Leica and M42 lenses on Sigma bodies but the thing is at present, only the M42 adapters are available; you can get the M42 mount from forum members in DCfever.

In the past, there were a Japanese and a British, who made SA-compatibile adapters for the Nikon and M42 lenses. They are no longing providing such a service. A pity. Anyway, if SD Q and HQ can sell well, maybe they will take the oppotunoty to earn some easy and fast money.
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