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發表於 2013-7-27 17:59:18 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
本帖最後由 Jason 於 2013-9-9 22:47 編輯

As all we know, Hasselblad 110mm f2 FE is one of the best Zeiss lenses ever made.  I always want to use it with digital back, but there are different problems:

1) method one:
To use it on Mamiya or PhaseOne DF body with various mamiya mount digital backs.  Because mamiya body has a focal plane shutter.  It is very easy.
But the problem is: I have to stop down the aperture everytime I shoot anything other than f2.  This makes shooting portraits almost impossible, which I normally use f5.6 or even f8.  It is very hard to focus at f2, then stop down everytime to f5.6 to shoot.

2) method two:
To use it on Hasselblad modified 202FA, 203FE or 205FCC bodies.  Hasselblad does offer a solution to use FE lenses with digital back.  The solution is to have your 200 series bodies modified by Hasselblad.  They basically change the electronic contacts, which are supposedly used to send ISO data to the film magazine, to now sending shutter signal to the digital back.  The mechanisim is: everytime you press the shutter, the electronic contact now sends signal to the back for the "sync" action.  

But the problem is: It costs HK$4000 to modify the 200 series body at Hasselblad.  Further, the camera body now no longer able to send ISO signal to E12 / E24 backs.  The modification literally turns your expensive E12 backs into cheapo A12.  And most importantly, various reports show that this sync method is not completely reliable.

3) method three:
To use the digital back on an regular Hasselblad 200 series camera with a specially made Kapture Cable: http://www.kapturegroup.com/imacon/imacon.html#4x4one_a
I have this cable.  It is very expensive.  I bought it for 395 USD.  Yes.  $395 USD!!  and it is very cumbersome to shoot unless using a tripod.

My solution:
This problem has bothered me for a rather long time.  After carefully studying Hasselblad literatures and with the help of different individuals.  Finally, there comes, in my view, a perfect solution to use Hasselblad / Zeiss lenses with digital backs.

This all comes from a thought.  I know Hasselblad made a small number of specially modified 203FE camera that can use CW winder (44105) for a NASA program.  Normally, all 200 series bodies use FE winder (44069).  However, I always think CW winders provide much better grip.  Most importantly, it has a shutter release on the winder, which makes shooting much faster.  And I also know that, at the bottom of CW winder, there is a plug for sync cable, which allows the use of release cord (44123).  

The question is whether it is posible to use this plug to to sync the shutter pressing signal to the digital back.

From Hasselblad literatures, actually it is possible.  For Hasselblad / Imacon-made digital backs, there is a little hole of the right hand side on the i-adapter, which is used to connect the back to Hasselblad 553, as well as, CW winder.  Finally, I found a modified 203FE camera which fits a CW winder to implement this project.

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As you can see from the aboved pic, the 203FE is mounted with a CW winder, not a usual FE winder.  There is a shutter release on the winder - far better shooting experience.

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Here is the most important trick.  You need a small cable to connect the CW winder with the digital back, which sends the shutter-pressing signal to the digital back.  As the distance between the two is very short.  The cable won't affect the way you shoot.

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110FE f2 latest version mounted on a specially modified 203FE.  Now shooting portraits with 110FE with digital back is possible.  Shooting in studio with this set up is excellent.  Think about the convenience brought by the CW winder

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Furthermore...  now even using with CF / CFi / CB lenses, with leaf shutter control, sycn-cable is no longer necessary.  Yes, I no longer need the troublesome sync-cable to connect the lens to the digital back, even using leaf shutter.  Haha!

Thanks for reading
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發表於 2013-8-4 11:05:24 | 顯示全部樓層
Thanks for this great idea. Please share details of the small capable using. Where to find one?
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M3fans 發表於 2013-8-4 11:05
Thanks for this great idea. Please share details of the small capable using. Where to find one?

you mean how to modify the camera?
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Jason 發表於 2013-8-4 13:14
you mean how to modify the camera?

Thanks for the reply. I have the CW winder, but not yet have DB. I meant the cable you used to connect the DB and the CW winder, is it something come with the DB? or you need to buy it seperately? What cable is that? Many thanks for sharing.
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-8-4 21:20:21 | 顯示全部樓層
M3fans 發表於 2013-8-4 17:47
Thanks for the reply. I have the CW winder, but not yet have DB. I meant the cable you used to con ...

You are using 200 series or 500 series?
For 200 series, you need to have your camera specially modified in order to use CW winder.

You will need this cable:
http://www.adorama.com/HSEC503.html
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發表於 2013-8-4 21:40:40 | 顯示全部樓層
Jason 發表於 2013-8-4 21:20
You are using 200 series or 500 series?
For 200 series, you need to have your camera specially m ...

Thanks again. I use 503cw, 501cm and 503cxi. Asked for the detail and trouble you is also to hope to leave something meaningful in this thread for other Chings.
Much appreciated, not easy to have this knowledge except from experienced Ching like yourself.
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M3fans 發表於 2013-8-4 21:40
Thanks again. I use 503cw, 501cm and 503cxi. Asked for the detail and trouble you is also to hope  ...

not a problem

if you have 503CW, that is easy. You can use CW winder directly.
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發表於 2013-8-27 12:26:09 | 顯示全部樓層
Jason Ching, since you get you camera already modified. Did you have any information on how to modify 203FE or 205TCC camera to fits a CW winder? Thanks!
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 樓主| 發表於 2013-8-27 22:28:40 | 顯示全部樓層
george_chang 發表於 2013-8-27 12:26
Jason Ching, since you get you camera already modified. Did you have any information on how to modif ...

hi george, the guy who did the modification for me now no longer willing to do it.... so it is now a bit tricky....
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Jason Chung, Thanks anyway!
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