Which 21mm?

inzite

vincecharus 發表於 2013-9-6 10:40
Any c-hing wants to post the legendary Super Angulon?

now that is an interesting one...

vincecharus

inzite 發表於 2013-9-6 10:40
i guess it depends on the framing and situation. I got some decent ones with my 15mm voigt but tha ...

Well, for me, anything wider than 35mm is mostly for landscape or cityscape.

Sometimes there are exceptions, though.

ZM 18/4

inzite

vincecharus 發表於 2013-9-6 10:44
Well, for me, anything wider than 35mm is mostly for landscape or cityscape.

totally understandable different usage of tools for different styles.
in particular i love using wide for portrait where i want to bring an connection between the subject and the environment.  For me I don't use it to bring in as much as I can into the frame but rather use it to bring in selective items that adds to the scene.

vincecharus

inzite 發表於 2013-9-6 10:47
totally understandable different usage of tools for different styles.
in particular i lov ...

I see

inzite

vincecharus 發表於 2013-9-6 10:58
I see

yeah, my approach to wide angle and how I can use it to convey my ideas changed alot after visiting tibet where everything is so grand so far apart from each other, usually wide angle there simply led to the issue of "I captured everything but nothing stands out"... ever since I've taken a more minimalistic approach to deploy ultra wide angle for my shots.

vincecharus

inzite 發表於 2013-9-6 11:04
yeah, my approach to wide angle and how I can use it to convey my ideas changed alot after visitin ...

Ok, if I go to Tibet I'll try to put my ZM15/2.8 to good use then.

Actually, though it seems to be contrary to your wishes, for your usage I would recommend VM 21/1.8A for a number of reasons:
-  Some subject separation by DOF is possible
-  Smaller, lighter, and not as cumbersome as 21/1.4A
-  Very close focus possible (up to 0.5m)
-  Ok decent optics (decent quality @1.8; very little distortion and vignetting but some chromatic aberration)
-  It seems that you can accept the "look" of VM, unlike some other c-hings.  (Actually, I don't particularly prefer VM look.)
-  Good price!

Have you given it a spin yet?

inzite

vincecharus 發表於 2013-9-6 11:06
Ok, if I go to Tibet I'll try to put my ZM15/2.8 to good use then.

slightly off topic now i guess but...

yeah it really boils down to what you want to convey in your shots.  For me, i used alot of telephoto for landscapes as the compression often helps me bring the foreground and background closer to each other, in times it helps me bring a sense of size ratio.

for example...

INZ_3495 copy by inzite, on Flickr

oppositely, the ultra wide angle allows me to get in close with the subject I want but also bring in other elements to go with the subject, distortion often is not the deciding factor for me.


INZ_4185 copy by inzite, on Flickr

vincecharus

inzite 發表於 2013-9-6 11:12
slightly off topic now i guess but...

yeah it really boils down to what you want to convey in you ...

I get your style.

(Give VM21/1.8A a try, if you haven't already.   )

inzite

vincecharus 發表於 2013-9-6 11:18
I get your style.

(Give VM21/1.8A a try, if you haven't already.   )

yeah, would be great if ching can post more vm 21 1.8 pics

iluvshoot

vincecharus 發表於 2013-9-6 10:40
Any c-hing wants to post the legendary Super Angulon?

21SA is my favorite for 21, especailly the silver one , but too bad it got red shift with digital.
FYR
http://forum.hklfc.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=132454 (most of the colour slides r with my SA21)

vincecharus

iluvshoot 發表於 2013-9-6 11:21
21SA is my favorite for 21, especailly the silver one , but too bad it got red shift with ...

very special lens!

vincecharus

inzite 發表於 2013-9-6 11:19
yeah, would be great if ching can post more vm 21 1.8 pics

Tom Abrahamsson: http://www.cameraquest.com/voigt_21_18.htm

Steve Huff:  http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/20 ... view-by-steve-huff/

Ken Rockwell:  http://www.kenrockwell.com/voigtlander/21mm-f18.htm

Flickr pool:  http://www.flickr.com/groups/2070873@N24/

總括來講，VM比較粗曠，不及萊卡 21/2.8A 和 21/3.4A 幼細，但大光圈能帶來不同的 creative possibilities。（我個人覺得，萊卡 21/1.4A 使用時問題太多，不值得投資。）

grandetech

inzite 發表於 2013-9-6 11:12
slightly off topic now i guess but...

yeah it really boils down to what you want to convey in you ...

totally agree with Inzite hing, wide for portraits, tele for landscape!  And you have been mastering them very well too.

BigEyes

ghost03032008 發表於 2013-9-5 21:39
相信inzite hing 要支21，同我一樣，吾係用尼影景貢簡單.....應該都係屋企相為主力。可以既話，真係要諗諗 ...

ghost ching,
you can use your MM... then no problem
super high iso

BigEyes

inzite 發表於 2013-9-6 11:12
slightly off topic now i guess but...

yeah it really boils down to what you want to convey in you ...

same for me
wide for close-up
tele for landscape
I have VM21/4, 21SE and 21luxA.
21SE is the best in terms of performance
21luxA is useful but there is distortion and purple fringe

lc7535

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