To buy or not to buy? (Sony A7 / A7r)

wesley

樣衰到冇人有... 但最後都係會忍唔住買36MP...

kgv

wesley 發表於 2013-10-15 10:16
樣衰到冇人有... 但最後都係會忍唔住買36MP...

x2

我寧願 佢個 VF 同 handgrip 係 optional 或 外置 ...

MIG

wesley 發表於 2013-10-15 10:16
樣衰到冇人有... 但最後都係會忍唔住買36MP...

The look really bad... but the price really good...

Just curious... is this sensor same as the one in D800E?

Patrick_c

certainly will buy

for the reason that it has a more end-user-friendly price

wesley

MIG 發表於 2013-10-15 11:33
The look really bad... but the price really good...

Just curious... is this sensor same as the on ...

SAR site saying the 36MP sensor is not the same as D800E, seems kinds of microlenses structure to resolve the corner color cast... let's see how it does with Voigtlander 21/1.8

Jason

MIG 發表於 2013-10-15 11:33
The look really bad... but the price really good...

Just curious... is this sensor same as the on ...

I think it is the second generation of it. This one has micro lens. it should alleviate / solve "red gate" problem and improve high ISO performance.

MIG

wesley 發表於 2013-10-15 11:42
SAR site saying the 36MP sensor is not the same as D800E, seems kinds of microlenses structure to  ...

wakaka, I do look forward to mount it with ZM 21/4.5, which suffer red gate issue on Leica M...

MYM8

khw 發表於 2013-10-15 08:31
Will buy!! Make full use of almost all old lenses.

khw, all (M, CZ, N, C, etc etc) or just most??

kgv

"ALMOST all" is a safer term to say than "all"

khw

Yes, "almost" means some exceptions as I can think of, like the Nikon 21/4 old version (the SLR one or the very rare RF one),  Pre-war 35 Biogon. Post war 21/4 Biogon should fit by not sure on the edge performance.

redrede

我就唔買啦

vincecharus

I am in no hurry.  Let's look at what the reviews and the users say first.  In 6 months the price will drop.  In less than 24 months there will be new models.

There was a time when I was thinking differently.  I was waiting for this to come out so that I could give up my digital M bodies.  Having deliberated a lot on this matter, I have now decided to stick with my M9 and MM no matter what because of their CCD sensors and also because they already serve 99% of my photography needs.

It doesn't mean I won't buy this one.  Just I won't plunge into it.

bubu

Since I am already indulged with MM's high ISO capability, I will see how A7r performs at ISO6400 or above before I take out my credit card.

raumplan

can make a good companion alongside with the mm!
finally a smaller body, no more focus shift to deal with!  sounds like a "go" to me for color photography.....

the question is.....I have been shooting purely with the mm for the past 11 months.....i can't really remember how to shoot color

Jason

bubu 發表於 2013-10-15 14:03
Since I am already indulged with MM's high ISO capability, I will see how A7r performs at ISO6400 or ...

i can almost say it for certain that the high ISO performance of A7r will be superb.
i think it will be at least on the same par with, or even better than, D800.

Jason

I'm such a cheapskate. I like MM a lot, but it's hard for me to convince myself to put 50 grand on a digital camera which can only shoot black and white and with only 18mp.
I think a downsized output from the 36mp sensor will outperform monochrom.

MIG

bubu 發表於 2013-10-15 14:03
Since I am already indulged with MM's high ISO capability, I will see how A7r performs at ISO6400 or ...

Well, cash is better. Credit card need extra service charge, not worth it

MIG

Jason 發表於 2013-10-15 14:12
i can almost say it for certain that the high ISO performance of A7r will be superb.
i think it wil ...

For 36MP sensor, the choice of lenses are more critical (like D800/E). Maybe that APO-Summicron 50 can finally show off its real power through a Sony machine?

Jason

MIG 發表於 2013-10-15 14:28
For 36MP sensor, the choice of lenses are more critical (like D800/E). Maybe that APO-Summicron 50 ...

that is very true. actually i find doing manual focus with a 36MP sensor handheld is very difficult. i would say 50% hit or miss, if i don't pay 100% attention when focusing. besides, i would say a majority of old lenses would not have enough edge to edge resolution to "feed" the 36mp sensor.

that's why im still thinking whether i should simply get the 24mp one.

redrede

Jason 發表於 2013-10-15 14:34
that is very true. actually i find doing manual focus with a 36MP sensor handheld is very difficul ...

If they don't improve the focusing feature, it will only show more out focus by increasing the MP. Which mean it is getting harder to do quick snapshot!?